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10月9日~~~~~~~~~~~~~见了鬼了,前几天美国回信,今天又收到英国回信了(见360楼)

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发表于 2007-8-13 15:50 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
各位朋友,我的第三封信出去以后,只收到了WSPA的一封自动回复,又说48小时内答复我们.但是到现在为止第二封信的回复都没有到.估计向国际组织求援不能成功了.我们只能自己团结起来了.



前两封去信和回信都在1楼.翻译紧跟在信底下.由于一楼字数已用完,第三封回信开始见第132楼,第四封回信在214楼,我发出的第三封信在266楼


不管有用没用,发总比不发好.

我发了世界动物保护协会的英国总部;
国际爱护动物基金会的瑞士总部;
亚洲动物基金会;
美国动物保护协会

总共四份

这是8月13日第一封信

                                                         Please rescue the dogs in Hangzhou

Dear Officials in WSPA,

     I’m a resident of the city of Hangzhou , China. Hearing that you are a kind orgnization to protect animal, I wrote this letter to you hopefully . My letter is in order to ask for your help to rescue the dogs here.

     Hangzhou had announced a cruel rule for limitting citizens to keep dogs last year. That’s contents is ,dogs kept in the city should be tiny dogs whose hight is 30CM below. Larger dogs couldn’t get a permit card. If a dog had no permit card, it will be captured by “City-ruled Department”. If the host want to get his dog back, he should go to the the department to pay thousands of RMB for a punishment in 3 days. If there is no one to get the dogs back,the dogs will be dealed of euthanasia. But infactly, that’s bury alive(for saving money).The dogs who has a permit card only can go outside to have a walk before 7:00AM or after 7:00PM. If a dog go outside not in the permited time, it will be capture even it has a card. The host also need to pay thousands of RMB to get the dog back.

     This rule is announced not only for envioronment and disease. Acutually, it’s main aim is to get money from people. Because a permit card cost 1500RMB for the first year and 1000RMB for the next years. What’s more rediculous is that large dogs can get the card too if you pay more money. The method to capture dogs is violent. The worker of “City-ruled Department” use a huge pliers to clip on the neck of a dog, then throw the dog into a cage. In this case , innumerable dogs were killed and the dogs who have cards are living cautiously and anxiously.

     Recently ,the Dog-limitting Role has changed into a more stern one. It listed names of the dogs which can’t kept in city. The list is stupid. It’s not depend on the caracter of a dog, but the size of a dog. Some large but gentle dogs are also forbidden. The “City-ruled Department” will begin to “clear up” dogs in september. They are allowed to capture large dogs at “any time, any area” no matter it has a permit card or not. That means the maltreating of dogs are becoming more serious. Dogs in Hangzhou are in danger!

     As we know, dogs are our friends. But some departments thought they will enfluence the environment of the city, they will hurt people, they will spread disease. With these silly reasons and making use of dogs’ hosts’ love, some departments earn money inhumanly and greedly.

     Please, save our friends, stop the departments’ crue behavior .We are anxious and our dogs are in danger! The case is urgent!

     With my and all dog lovers’ appreciation!

     All best wishes!

    2007.8.13

懒的自己写的朋友可以复制发送.但是注意WSPA是世界动物保护协会,给别的部门发的时候称呼换掉

信的大意是:我是杭州的一个市民,听说你们是很好的动物保护组织,特地来求救
说某些部门为了钱对养狗进行了很苛刻的限制并且已经抓了很多狗,甚至从中谋取利益
现在新的政策更加危机,9月份要大规模地打狗
希望你们能给我们的狗朋友帮助
我和所有爱狗的人都感谢你们


这是8月13日国际爱护动物基金会的回信

Dear Friend,

IFAW works in China to support local shelters and educate the general public about the bond between people and animals. Unfortunately in many of the Asian countries, there is no animal welfare legislation that protect domestic and companion animals. IFAW has in the past years helped the Beijing government to establish a dog regulation, which makes it financially possible for many people to keep dogs as pets and also promotes responsible pet ownership.

You can read about the many animal welfare programs we run in China  on our website www.ifaw.org.  We will continue to work with the government to promote animal welfare issues and to adopt animal welfare laws.

Tracy Weeks

IFAW Supporter Relations


回信的大致意思是亚洲很多国家都没有动物保护法规.他们一直在努力保护狗.他们已经帮助北京制定了一个合理的养犬政策,在他们的网站上能看到很多他们为中国的狗作出的努力.现在他们还在继续努力和政府合作.



这样吧,大家觉得还有什么更有说服力的事实或者观点,就跟帖写出来,我整理一下看差不多能成一篇文章了就再翻译成英文发邮件过去.这需要我们一起的努力.

这是8月14日我的第二封信.

            Urgent! Dogs in Hangzhou are in danger!

Dear officials,

Sorry to bother you, this is my second letter. But the situation of the dogs in Hangzhou is really dangerous and urgent.

Yesterday I have send you a letter. I put the letter on the BBS of Hangzhou Net. Many friends gave me more advise. So these two letter stands for most of dog lover’s opinion in Hangzhou.We gonna show you more facts about the situation.

First, the “City-ruled Department” gave the dog-capturers an index for the number of dogs they get.That means they always capture dogs for nothing but to accomplish their assignment.That’s a cruel and rediculous strategy. The dog-capturers’ behavior should be improved. Even a dog has no permit card, they shouldn’t use pliers to clip the dog’s neck and use a hammer to knock the dog.. Sometimes when they are catching a pet dog, they even abuse the host. The dogs kept by them in the “three days” just like stay in hell!

As we know, most dogs kept in city are immunity against disease, they won’t spread desease. However, the dogs who have no home or the dogs kept in the country side are mostly not immunity against disease. But the department only limit the dogs in city, that way may have no effection. Our opinion is to give stray dogs and dogs in country side immune. That’s far more better than killing. Nowadays, the only method to deal with stray dogs is killing.

What’s more, to show their operation to some department, most mass medias are purposed to defame dogs. They described dogs into a kind of dangerous animal. They said dogs like biting people, dogs are dirty, dogs’ noise always bother people. And their descriptions are exaggerate.Think about the effection to the next generation, kids will think dogs are bad, that’s awful. The propagate about hydrophobia is also not accurate. Once there was a piece of news said everyday there are 200 people to take immune of hydrophobia in hospital, that means everyday 200 people are hurt by dogs. But you know once been hurt by dog, we should take immune for three times! So, actually only less than 100 persons was hurt everyday.That’s a serious mistake.

Some department has transferred the conflicting which is made by their own neglection to people’s inner conflicting------ the conflicting between dog keepers’ and no dog keepers’. That’s conscientious and it bring dog lovers and dogs lots of trouble.

The most inportant thing is ,dogs in Hangzhou are in danger! We know that you can communicate with the department of Hangzhou to persuade them stop killing,you can rescue the dogs! We know you have done a lot, we really thank you for what you do. Now Hangzhou needs your help ,please! Hangzhou’s limitation about dogs are the most stern of China’s cities’! September, the dogs will face abuse!

There are some photos of “City-ruled Department” killing dogs in the annex, please download and have a look.

We are expecting for your help.

With our best wishes.

2007.8.14


信的大意是:这是第二封信了,第一封我已经放到杭州的论坛上大家看了,所以这次是参考了很多人的意见代表了杭州大部分爱狗者的建议.城管素质要提高,不能有铁钳榔头的方式对付狗,城管下达打狗指标是荒谬的,他们也抓宠物狗.对流浪狗和农村狗也要打疫苗,这才是有效的办法.对流浪狗不能只用处死的方法.媒体有意诋毁狗是不对的,会造成不好的影响,尤其是对下一代.对狂犬病的宣传也缺乏准确性.一些部门把自己的失职转化成了养狗者和不养狗者的矛盾这是很无理的.我们这里情况紧急希望得到你们的帮助,不然到9月狗又麻烦了.杭州是中国狗政策最差的城市,希望马上给予帮助,我们期待着.附件里有一些城管打狗的照片,请过目.


8月14日亚洲动物基金会的回信

Xuxu你好,

非常感谢你的来信以及你提供的信息。

关于杭州颁布新养犬条例的消息,我们也已经从网上看到了。其实,早在今天3月杭州开始整治大型犬、烈性犬的时候,亚洲动物基金就曾经给政府的有关部门发出过请愿信,希望能政府能修订禁养大型犬的政策,效仿香港等地的做法,依据种类而非体型来规定禁养犬只。但现在看来,我们的声音显然没有对政府的决策产生影响。

听到现在颁布的新法的内容,我们和你们一样感到不解,和你们一样为那些现在变成了禁养犬的狗狗的命运感到担忧和难过,但是我们的力量真的有限。在过去一年多的时间里,我们因为这样的问题和许多地方政府有过沟通,但是看来我们的努力并没有能产生积极的成效。不过无论如何,我们还会继续努力,尽自己的力量为狗狗们代言。也希望所有的狗主们能团结起来,以合理合法的方式向政府反应你们的呼声。

祝好!

杨敏
中国关系总监
亚洲动物基金

[ 本帖最后由 chihuahuaknight 于 2007-10-9 10:46 编辑 ]

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牛牛4.23 + 3 我很赞同

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 15:51 | 显示全部楼层
老天保佑有用的SF
发表于 2007-8-13 15:51 | 显示全部楼层
好!很好!很强大!
发表于 2007-8-13 15:54 | 显示全部楼层
有地址不拉,我啊复制下发个古去 哈哈
发表于 2007-8-13 15:55 | 显示全部楼层
LZ,强,但是,我发现有错别字歪
发表于 2007-8-13 15:56 | 显示全部楼层
SHOULD BE :1000RMB for the first year and 500RMB for the next year

                        hight is 45CM below.

[ 本帖最后由 hei1014 于 2007-8-13 16:00 编辑 ]
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 15:56 | 显示全部楼层
humanesociety@ hsus.org美国
info@animalsasia.org亚洲
info@ifaw.org瑞士
wspa@wspa.org.uk英国
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 15:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 katherineonly 于 2007-8-13 15:55 发表
LZ,强,但是,我发现有错别字歪

看的懂么好了
写写也累的呀,懒的多检查
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 15:59 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hei1014 于 2007-8-13 15:56 发表
SHOULD BE :1000RMB for the first year and 500RMB for the next years

                        hight is 45CM below.

我先写过去的政策啊
新的政策,放宽的部分我不写,就写更严厉的部分
发表于 2007-8-13 16:00 | 显示全部楼层
支持楼主!
发表于 2007-8-13 16:01 | 显示全部楼层
嗯,等待中
发表于 2007-8-13 16:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 chihuahuaknight 于 2007-8-13 15:59 发表

我先写过去的政策啊
新的政策,放宽的部分我不写,就写更严厉的部分


30太夸张了啦,还是写现在的好了,我们很诚实的
发表于 2007-8-13 16:05 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 chihuahuaknight 于 2007-8-13 15:58 发表

看的懂么好了
写写也累的呀,懒的多检查

已经很强了
发表于 2007-8-13 16:11 | 显示全部楼层
赞的,我啊发发看
发表于 2007-8-13 16:13 | 显示全部楼层
翻译下脑,我文盲看8董外
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 16:19 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 跨虹 于 2007-8-13 16:13 发表
翻译下脑,我文盲看8董外

我说我是杭州的一个市民,听说你们是很好的动物保护组织,特地来求救
说某些部门为了钱对养狗进行了很苛刻的限制并且已经抓了很多狗,甚至从中谋取利益
现在新的政策更加危机,9月份要大规模地打狗
希望你们能给我们的狗朋友帮助
我和所有爱狗的人都感谢你们

就噶
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 16:24 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 〓Marlboro〓 于 2007-8-13 16:11 发表
赞的,我啊发发看

WSPA是世界动物保护协会

别的地方称呼改掉噢

不然误会大了
发表于 2007-8-13 16:25 | 显示全部楼层
要死~完全看不懂!麻烦xuxu翻译过来~
发表于 2007-8-13 16:26 | 显示全部楼层
行动上支持不了楼主  就精神上支持下吧!
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 16:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 momijisouma 于 2007-8-13 16:25 发表
要死~完全看不懂!麻烦xuxu翻译过来~

上面有简略的翻译了
发表于 2007-8-13 16:38 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 chihuahuaknight 于 2007-8-13 16:35 发表

上面有简略的翻译了

貌似有埋怨我没有好好看帖子的嫌疑
 楼主| 发表于 2007-8-13 16:42 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 momijisouma 于 2007-8-13 16:38 发表

貌似有埋怨我没有好好看帖子的嫌疑

米有 绝对米有
发表于 2007-8-13 16:43 | 显示全部楼层
静候佳音
发表于 2007-8-13 16:46 | 显示全部楼层
With my and all dog lovers’ appreciation!

写得很棒~
发表于 2007-8-13 16:53 | 显示全部楼层
楼主真强歪!
楼主你有没有写交钱不是最大得问题,而是狗狗没有自由,晒不到太阳。每天只能晚上出去走走,而且还有很多地方是不能去的。如公园等。
我英盲。英文看不懂。
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