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[图档] 杭州新电车驱动电机实拍

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发表于 2013-5-10 13:16 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
       杭州的这批新的青年电车,采用一台三相交流感应电机,直驱的形式,动力结构非常简单,电机转子通过万向传动轴直接驱动整体式后驱动桥,它采用这种结构,并没有出乎我的意料。结构简单,意味着坚固、可靠,一个转子,一个定子,里面却蕴涵着太多的先进的控制思想,优良的动力特性,科技......
       坐了一圈,感觉很不错,运行过程感觉很安静,除了空气压缩机运转时会有一定的振动和比较明显的噪音外,其它时候都出奇的安静,偶尔会听到辅助变流器发出的“兹”声,虽然安静但是动力强劲,电机低速恒转矩的特性表现的一览无余。另外,空调的效果很好。总之,杭州的电车是彻底更新换代了。

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发表于 2013-5-10 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
楼主有研究过这类电车的电机吗?
http://bbs.hangzhou.com.cn/forum ... ead&tid=9414805
发表于 2013-5-10 14:22 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
电车万岁
发表于 2013-5-10 14:27 | 显示全部楼层
说起这新电车的空调是辫子电驱动的还是电池电驱动的啊?冬天开地暖的电呢?
发表于 2013-5-10 15:02 | 显示全部楼层
这个电车的制动不知道有没有再生制动,按照道理是有的。。。LZ你再爬地板小心被抓起来{:soso_e151:}
发表于 2013-5-10 15:04 | 显示全部楼层
这个LZV5啊,顶一下。
发表于 2013-5-10 15:10 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-5-10 15:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 爱德蒙顿 于 2013-5-10 15:25 编辑

查阅了2008年写的一篇通讯稿,是根据当时巴家信息写的,当年8月8日奥运开幕当天,杭州也开始试验三台装了锂电池的所谓 “电-电”车。今次是否是将当年的试验结果产业化了?

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While the world's attention is still focused on the spetacular display of fireworks and performances in Beijing's Bird Nest Stadium.  Good news for trolley fans alike also errupted from southern China.  On the early morning hours of 08/08/08, three Changjiang Flxible trolleys retrofitted with lithium batteries began revenue operation on Hangzhou's route 188.  

The air-conditioned trolleys operate an approximately 9 km course from the waterfront of Xihu (West Lake) national scenic resort to Hangzhou north Long Distance Bus Station.  It is a shorter version of the longer route 188 which operates from Hangzhou north LBS to Hangzhou Rail-way Station.  Route 188 is a limited stop service introduced a few years ago while trolley route 155/K155 was still in place, following that notorious farewell ''KISS" in 2006, route 188 became an increasingly popular route linking downtown Hangzhou and north end.  Last year when the construction of Hangzhou's first subway began, overhead were removed from Hangzhou's most prestigious commercial street, Yan'an Road", forcing the two highly popular trolley routes, 151 and 290 to relocate to a different street which is parallel to Yan'an.  While these two trolley routes are gradually building up their new customer base, it is widely hoped that trolleys should return to Yan'an some day.

With much effort spent on researching lithium battery, it is made possible for trolleys to return to the financial center of the city.  Each trolley is equipped with 18 battery packs, and each pack contains 10 batteries, the size of the battery pack is about the same as a computer hard drive.  Line voltage of Hanghzou trolley overhead is between 570V to 615V, the circuit before the depoling point is maintained near the maximum voltage.  When trolleys depole from the overhead, batteries can provide near maximum voltage, by the time when trolley reaches Waterfront destination, loop around, and return to repoling point, a total distance of 10km, the voltage is dimished to about 586V.  If recharging is still not possible at this time and voltage continues to dwindle to below 570V, normal operation cannot be sustained.  According to a technical manager of Hangzhou trolley-bus company, the ratio between charging capacity and consumption is 1.5:1.  Despite the increasing cost of these new trolleys compare to conventional trolleys without battery packs, the overall cost is still at 90% level of a diesel bus, and it is zero emission.  If trial operation is successful, the local trolley company plans to replace all 13 units currently operate on the shorter version of route 188 with new "line-to-battery" trolleys.
 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-10 15:30 | 显示全部楼层
姜峰 发表于 2013-5-10 14:16
楼主有研究过这类电车的电机吗?
http://bbs.hangzhou.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=9414805

我看过这两本书

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发表于 2013-5-10 20:28 | 显示全部楼层
好专业的普及
发表于 2013-5-10 20:47 | 显示全部楼层
Raptor01 发表于 2013-5-10 15:02
这个电车的制动不知道有没有再生制动,按照道理是有的。。。LZ你再爬地板小心被抓起来

有但不反冲电网。
发表于 2013-5-10 20:57 | 显示全部楼层
最好能把整个底盘 架起来看个明白
 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-11 08:23 | 显示全部楼层
回望的眼神 发表于 2013-5-10 20:57
最好能把整个底盘 架起来看个明白

整个底盘其实除了动力部分其它方面和一般的客车基本都是一样的。
发表于 2013-5-11 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
丸尾花轮 发表于 2013-5-10 20:47
有但不反冲电网。

给蓄电池充电?
发表于 2013-5-11 11:00 | 显示全部楼层
Raptor01 发表于 2013-5-11 10:11
给蓄电池充电?

恩,电池满的话就用电阻消耗掉。
 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-11 12:34 | 显示全部楼层
丸尾花轮 发表于 2013-5-11 11:00
恩,电池满的话就用电阻消耗掉。

它的这个电池是功率型的还是能量型的?
发表于 2013-5-13 20:03 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-5-13 20:10 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-14 01:52 | 显示全部楼层
54HZ62 发表于 2013-5-13 20:03
其实国外早在上世纪七十年代就已经开始研究无轨电车的交流电机驱动问题了。他们把架空线网的直流电通过逆变 ...

     进行能量变换的功率变流器和控制大功率半导体开关元件基极驱动信号的驱动电路是两个东西,一个是高电压大电流,一个是低压的,用低压来控制高压,所以称之为电机控制器应该是不准确的,应该称为电机变流器;三相两电平大功率半导体桥式电路一共有6个大功率半导体开关元件,共有6种开关状态组合,能产生8个空间电压矢量,每一时刻不同的电压矢量作用于定子绕组上会产生不同的效果,就是加快或减小定子磁链的转速,从而控制电机的转矩和转速。
发表于 2013-5-14 08:54 | 显示全部楼层
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