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For English Learners,here is the help! 别老说自己的口语不好:

For English Learners,here is the help! 别老说自己的口语不好:

i like to share my understanding with you about learning english. no matter which skill you want to emphasize, there is only one way to achieve that.  this is what i call to know and to practice.

1. to know what?

A. knowing reading is the first step if one wants to improve his/her english. the correct way to enhance our english 4 skills starts from reading. in this case, “READ RIGHT” is a very important goal.

for instances, when first time encountering a word, phrase, or sentence, try to spell and read them correctly. many people keep making mistakes on the same issue because they have their mind set from the beginning. and it is very hard to change later, such as wrong pronunciations, incorrect usages, etc...   so when you learn a new word, try your best to spell it out loud and carefully pronounce it. If you are not sure about the pronunciation, go check or ask it.

B. when practicing reading skills, there are three groups of objects to approach:
a. the meaningful paragraphs:  these are too large to be easily handled.
b. sentences:
c. and words: from our experience we all know reciting vocabularies alone is not going to help us. i have seen so many people reciting vocabularies and when it comes to time of using them, they know a little.

thus, knowing sentence level reading skill practice is the stage where we start from.  for the past 27 years of teaching, i have developed a way to do this. and i call it "sentence structure analysis."  this is not new to english learners.  based on the sentence you have, try to break it down to different parts of speech, such as subject nouns, verbs, and object nouns, adjectives, adverbs.  analyze about 10 sentences a day. by analyzing the sentence structure correctly, one can improve his/her reading skill within one month even s/he does not necessarily know the meaning of all words in a sentence.  also through this practice, you learn the usages of words or phrases.

C. after this practice, then what?

during the time of practicing "READ RIGHT," one can also apply the usages and knowledge learnt from reading in writing.  start to write simple sentences with subject + verb + object.  write nothing more other than those three. complicated sentence writing will not necessarily bring you to high level of writing skill.  write short but right is our emphasis.

Know that you can write right based on the skills and technologies learnt from read right.

D. then what?

a. do your best to turn on english programs from tv, radio, or any other device which will make you a simulated english environment.  it is not necessary for you to understand all contents coming from that program at this stage.  by doing this, you are getting your ears familiar with the wave and tone of english expressions.  thus, english music is not as good as cartoons, news broadcastings, soap operas, etc.  the only requirement is the correct english pronunciation for those you are listening.  let it play as long as you can even if you are not paying attention to it.

b. the second stage of listening skill practice combines the skills of reading and listening by recording and playing what you are reading.  if there are tapes or cds to go with the materials you are reading, play them before, while, and after you do all careful analysis on what you are reading.  if there is no tape or cd, just read and record slowly your own.  you can record from those with better pronunciations and those who are willing to help you.  read slowly but clearly.  Please play them even you are about to go to sleep.  "let it play from time to time" is the key.  continuing playing and listening to meaningful materials will be a way to help your skills of listening and speaking.  remember, at this stage, you will do your best to understand all what you are listening.

2. to practice

there is no short cut in english skills improving.  practice is the only way.  but please practice correctly.  otherwise, you are wasting your time and/or others.  if you just keep talking nonsense and this will not help at all.  there are only two inputs in these 4 skills, listening and reading.  one has to have meaningful inputs in order for her/him to have meaningful outputs.  remember, one has to read and listen to meaningful sentences then these will help her/his writing and speaking skills later.

to practice those i mentioned above takes very short time.  do sentence structure analysis with simple and short sentences in the beginning.  after doing a few times, your confidence will be built up.  then go pick up any sentence or more from any magazine or article, even writings with non- understandable subjects, or those in weird fields with difficult vocabularies, and do the analysis accordingly.

once you get to know this very well, you can start write things according to the same principle.  and add more and more words, phrases, or clauses to the sentences you are writing.  then, your writing skill is improved.

remember: DON'T GIVE UP.  find one or two friends to do this together. have fun.  this practice costs you nothing.  i see so many people complainning about the cost of those english teaching programs.

will you please stop saying my english is not good and do nothing to help.  from what I said above, it takes less time but gain the highest benefit if you just do it.  this is the way to reach the goal of improving your 4 skills in english. to know and to practice! again, try mine and through which, you gain the most in the shortest time. trust me, friends. all my students and student teachers who practice and/or teach this find it beneficial.  many get high scores in toefl and other english tests within a very short time.

REMEMBER: the sequence is reading, writing, listening, then speaking.  don't waste your time and money finding short cuts other than this.  all materials are good as long as you use it right.  these are my sincerest advices.

[ Last edited by zhiren on 2005-9-16 at 10:28 ]

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re,
get the input material, creat your own output, over and over again.
without this way, i'd like to buy some DVD movie, spoken in english, great music, nice stories, and people, with your favorite english, you learn it and entertain at the same time.
[img]http://www.19floor.net/uploadImages/2003122723385413351.jpg[/img]

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看不懂

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What you said is very good.

[ Last edited by CrazyEnglish on 2004-8-30 at 19:06 ]

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i wrote it this morning, all friends.  people ask me my qualifications:

i believe my 27 year language teaching experience is enough to speak out for me.  i had learnt 7 languages with all appropriate degrees and certificates to teach.  that is all i want to say to people here.  thank you.  and from now on, i will not defend for myself anymore.

if you want to, please take my writing to your english professors and teachers, and consult with them.

i am here to help those who want to learn english.  i am not interested in fighting and arguing.  that is not my personality.  if you will take my suggestions, you can make progress for sure; and if not, it is your choice.

[ Last edited by zhiren on 2004-8-31 at 00:31 ]

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i believe it was written by zhiren
I love hangzhou.

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great.thanks
——————梅花香自苦寒来——————


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just keep talking is the best way
笨拙的被你抱着,呼吸失去了时间。看不到可以看到的四维。

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disagree

if you just keep talking nonsense and this will not help at all.  there are only two inputs in these 4 skills, listening adn reading.  one has to have meaningful inputs in order for her/him to have meaningful outputs.  

remember, one has to speak, write meaningful sentences then this will help.

[ Last edited by zhiren on 2004-8-31 at 08:33 ]

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Thank you,zhiren.
my term begins in 6th September.I will go to wenzhou in 3th.
i will do more practices in your way.
thank you again!

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just like what my intensive english teacher said.
we know the principle,but it's hard to do

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引用:
引用 zhiren 在2004-8-30 09:30 PM:发表的
if you just keep talking nonsense and this will not help at all.  there are only two inputs in these 4 skills, listening adn reading.  one has to have meaningful inputs in order for her/him to have ...
i think we all should thank you
爱自己爱别人

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暈·····好深奧啊··············閃

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very good

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to practice those i mentioned above take very short time.  doing sentence structure analysis with simple and short sentences in the beginning.  after doing a few times, your confidence will be built up.  then go pick up any sentence or more from any magazine or articles, even with difficult vocabularies, and do the analysis accordingly.

once you get to know this very well, you can start write things according to the same principle.  and add more and more words, phrases, or clauses to the sentences you are writing.

remember: DON'T GIVE UP.  find one or two friends to do this together. have fun.  this practice costs you nothing and through which, you gain the most in the shortest time.  all my students and student teachers who practice and/or teach this find it beneficial.  many get high score in toefl and other english tests within a very short of time.

[ Last edited by zhiren on 2004-9-2 at 12:12 ]

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the most important problem

yeah, DO NOT GIVE UP. this is the key problem.
i think many people here have the gift in learning english, but they always feel that they're so poor at  the languate , just like me, hehe. why? they cannot keep on practising.
i see the problem, but i still cannot deal with it, which is my most important broblem.

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english is my nightmare.i want to escape but it is used in everywhere.香蕉你个疤瘌的.headache when i see it ..but it's a good hypnosis.i like read english at white night ..

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to hiren

       Thank you for your teaching.
       I am a new-comer, took part into the English time last week. I am very interested in English, hoping speaking in english freely with my friends in QQ , but my English level is very poor at present. I have been working for four years, after graduated from university, my working environment has no chance to keep in touch with English, so a lot of words have been forgotten , now when I have a chat with friends in English , some words can not be recall.
I think may be there are a lot of grammar mistakes in these sentences ,  I hope you will point out .
      Thank you!

From today, I try my best to write something in english every day, to hance my english level.
       i hope you will give me some advise in my english study.

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glad to help and that is my intention.  you can call me at 13606716810 and/or

zhirenzhou@hotmail.com

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Zhiren,

I came to visit this BBS by chance, but you touched me thoroughly. I've never seen a person dedicating to teaching others in such a selfless manner since I saw you here. You did it. You are great. Million thanks.

Hi guys, no pains, no gains. Let's join Zhiren in improving our English.

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Give me a break!

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thank you for your sharing

i think i am very precise and simple here.  those are from my 27 year teaching experience and i do have something to say. i know quite many things learnt from my experience and life.  but i still want to say, "thank you for your comment, my friend."

welcome to share yours!

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啊,考六级啊,

走错地方了.SORRY!
我很孤独,孤立无援;我很空虚,空有方向; 我很后悔,后无悔意;我很忧伤,忧者夫畅;

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Thank you,TOP.
my term begins in 6th September.I will go to wenzhou in 3th.
i will do more practices in your way.
thank you !
我很孤独,孤立无援;我很空虚,空有方向; 我很后悔,后无悔意;我很忧伤,忧者夫畅;

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to dear 小不点儿

"Thank you for your teaching."  quoted from above.

I am a new-comer, took part into the English time last week.
1. comer, taking part into..: i can do the action of take so the correct form is taking. visiting or joining is even better here.  if trying to say two sentences, you need to add and as a conjunction and then took part....
2. I am new to English Time. i joined from last week.
3. english time both need to be capitalized.

I am very interested in English, hoping speaking in english freely with my friends in QQ , but my English level is very poor at present.
1. and i hope to speak it ........through QQ. My english level is very poor at present time.  or now, right now, etc  

I have been working for four years, after graduated from university
1. four years after...
2. after graduating....university.

university, my working environment has no chance to keep in touch with English, so a lot of words have been forgotten ,
1. university.  Since i don't use English at work, i forget lots of English words.

now when I have a chat with friends in English , some words can not be recall.
1. forgotten, now when..: nowadays when chatting with friends in English, i don't recall many words.
2. better to use active than passive mood.

I think may be there are a lot of grammar mistakes in these sentences ,  I hope you will point out .
1. I think maybe there are...
2. and i hope you will...

Thank you! From today, I try my best to write something in english every day, to hance my english level.
1. From today on...
2. I do my best to write....
3. in English everyday in order to enhance ...

i hope you will give me some advise in my english study.
1. some advices: it is countable
2. English study

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Tohiren

    Thank you for your teaching.

    I'm so glad to receive your advice. meanwhile, my English level  is so poor , a small passage presents so many mistakes. I don’t know whether what I understood is correct , according to your suggestion, I revise as follows:

      
       I am a new-comer,  joining the English time last week. I am very interested in English and I hope to speak it freely with my friends through QQ .My English level is very poor  now. I have been working for four years and after graduated from university.  Since I don’t use  English at work,  I forget lots of English words . Nowadays when chatting with friends in English , I don’t recall many words .
     I think maybe there are a lot of grammar mistakes in these sentences and I hope you will point out
    Thank you!
    From today on, I do my best to write something in English  everyday in order to enhance my English level.
    I hope you will give me some advises in my English study.

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comments to the subject:

always try to learn English from native speaker, otherwise they don't understand what you are talking at all.

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English corner

sir zhiren,
I am little ant,and my English name is sunny,you can call me sunny.I have not written
anything about English on this bbs,but tonight I want to say something.
I am so glad to see you,and according to what i saw today,you are kind indeed,and you
are so patient that you are even a good listenor.You are warm-heart in life,i think.
And i want to say that it is useful to hold such English activity,and i think learn English
not only by repeating,but also by enhancing the repeating.This is my point of veiw.
And i have a question that is there always an English corner on that building? Is it regular?
Thanks.

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good job
Let's transforming~~

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UP~

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